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Lupton Wrathall Robinson

In 1997, Robert A. Jackman wrote the following in reply to my e-mail enquiry regarding Lupton Wrathall:
I am enclosing two accounts of the marriage of Lupton Wrathall and Rebecca Wayland. They agree on the place and date, and that the [actual full name] was Lupton Wrathall Robinson. There is confusion on Rebecca's maiden name. I have chosen Wayland rather than Walamond. A significant item is that at the time of the marriage [my ancestor's full name] was Lupton Wrathall Robinson. The name definitely became Wrathall when he arrived in Canada, and family descendants say that it was done because there were too many Robinson families in the Perth area (sounds odd). The descendants also say that Wrathall was his mother's maiden name (unconfirmed).

I enclose a printout showing the children of Lupton and Rebecca. I have quite a bit of information on descendants through Lupton and Rebecca's children, but am not enclosing it. I will forward anything you might find interesting.

The following is in case you are not familiar with the geography of southern Ontario: I have had a look at your website and Cal Wrathall's [information]. I don't think there is any doubt that Cal and I are descended from Lupton and Rebecca. Cal indicates that his Canadian ancestors lived Bathurst, New Brunswick for a period of time. I think there may be some confusion as they lived in Bathurst Township, Lanark County, Ontario, and were buried there.

If my information is correct, and there is strong evidence that the [correct] name was Lupton Wrathall Robinson in England, it puts a new slant on the search. I still could be connected to Roberte Wrathall (1554 -), but it would be through a female Wrathall. To confuse it more, the unusual name Lupton appears in 3 Wrathall generations in England, according to [the information I saw].

I suggest that I contact Cal Wrathall and offer him the information that I have. I also will send you anything that you think would be of interest.
I sent Bob an e-mail (cc to Cal) with Cal's e-mail address, so we will see what develops. Bob had further comments on Lupton:
Settlement records in Ontario generally are not very consistent in their content. Many people I have researched through census, church and other records were unable to sign their own names, and did not seem to be able to remember the ages of their own children. Records were hand written, and copied once or twice - leading to errors.

I have the following items that may help or confuse you: I have not as yet checked Roy Wrathall's site. I have quite a bit of information on the children of Lupton Wrathall Robinson and his descendants. I obtained it this summer from Gordon Bailey in California who in turn obtained it from other sources. He is tracing the Bailey / Wrathall connection, although he is not descended from the Wrathalls. It amounts to 35 pages, and has not been assembled in an organized manner.
Another Wrathall descendant, Clyde Bell, has written about his family history; click HERE to read about some of the Wrathalls of Lanark County.
In 1998, Virginia Green was researching Wrathalls, especially descendants of Lupton Wrathall (Robinson), in Lanark County, Ontario. Virginia had a page concerning her research at Lanark County Genealogical Society. If anyone has any info to share, contact her at cvgreen(at)rogers(dot)com . She mentioned the following:
I'm a descendant of Sarah, one of Lupton Wrathall (Robinson)'s daughters..... While researching Lupton , I recently learned that he was a private with the 3rd Royal Guards, a service for which he was given land in Lanark Co., Ontario. I am not sure if this is a British Regiment or Canadian, although I suspect it was British. .....If you go to www.ancestry.com and do a search in the SSDI under free searches you will find 57 Wrathalls, and alot of them are in Utah. Under Ancestry World tree I actually found a Harriet Wrathall who belongs to me.
Virginia mentioned that the International Genealogical Index has her ancestor's marriage, but no parents for him:
Lupton Wrathall ROBINSON; Born: ABT 1782, Of St. George, London, England
Spouse: Rebecca WALAND; Marriage: 15 Jun 1807, Hanover Square, St. George, London, England
In 2000, Virginia discovered the following information in an I.G.I. Parents Search on her ancestor:
I was at the local LDS family history center recently and found an interesting entry, after I had entered Lupton W. Robinson:
Lupton Wrathall ROBINSON or WRATHALL, c. June 14 1782 , Spilsby, Lincoln, England. Parents: Lupton Wrathal & Eleanor ROBINSON.
This I am sure is my Lupton, as the dates are correct. I had found Henry Wrathall, his wife Susannah Lupton, and their son Lupton (b.1716), his wife Mary Colton and all their children on the IGI on-line, but I could not find Lupton Wrathall Robinson's parents there. On the on-line index I also found another son of Lupton & Mary Colton, John Wrathall, b. abt. 1742 in Burnsall.
In Dec. 2009, the following IGI Individual Record and Pedigree Resource Files were available from the FamilySearch website:
  1. The L.D.S. transcription of the Bishop's transcripts of the Linton parish christening records:
  2. Burnsall Bishops' Transcripts (1740-1783):
  3. Rev. F. A. C. Share's transcription of the Linton parish records:
  4. The printed transcript of the parish register for Conistone:
Lupton Sr. (1716-1790?) was the last child of Henry (1677-1740?), who was attending the church at Linton. Lupton Sr. married Mary Colton in 1739 in the Linton church. Their first child, Henry (1740, baptised in Burnsall), died the same year he was born. Mary was probably also the mother of the second child, William (1746, baptised in Burnsall), who also died as an infant. The third and fourth children were also William (1747) and Henry (1749), both baptised in Linton. The last three children were baptised in Conistone; Stephen (1752) appears to have survived, but Susanna (1754) died at 13. The last child was Lupton Jr. (1757), when Lupton Sr. was 41. Mary was probably the mother of all of them. This places Lupton Wrathall Robinson and descendants amongst Myra Simmonds' list of the Descendants of Henry Wratho ( - 1587).

Then Lupton Jr. may have emigrated to Lincolnshire, either with Eleanor Robinson, or he met her there. Eleanor had a child, and she must not have been married to Lupton Jr., but she named the boy after Lupton Jr., and since she wasn't married, he had to have the Robinson surname. The word from Bob Jackman is that Lupton III changed his surname to Wrathall because there were too many Robinsons at the time.
In 2001, Virginia Green summarised her findings on Lupton Wrathall (Robinson):
Since I have found my Lupton Wrathall (Robinson) I thought I would tell you a little about what I know about him. He was born in Spilsby, Lincoln. Eng., abt. 1782, the son of Eleanor Robinson and Lupton Wrathall, and great grandson of Henry Wrathall and Susannah Lupton. Since he was at some point using the Robinson surname , I expect the parents were not married. By the time he was settled in Lanark Co. Ontario, he was using the Wrathall surname.

I believe he came to Canada with the British Army, 3rd Royal Reg. probably in 1814 for the last months of the War of 1812, and received a free land grant in 1817 in Drummond Twp.Lanark Co.

Lupton married Rebecca Wayland June 15 1807 in St. George's Church, Hanover Square, London. They had a family of ten, eight daughters & two sons. One of their daughters Sarah, b. abt 1809, was my gg grandmother who married Abraham Ferrier in 1827, in Perth, Ontario. Lupton's occupation was a butcher. He died Aug. 29, 1834 in Lanark Co.
In Jan. 2007, a Rootsweb worldconnect website ( Descendants of Edward & Frances Hudson - contact: Jim Ward) listed Lupton and Rebecca's 10 children: Martha, Sarah, Elizabeth, Amelia, George R., Eleanor, Mary Ann, John , Esther and Rebecca. See also information provided by Keith Braund and Donna McCormick on Martha Wrathall of Lanark County .
In 1998, Roy Wrathall mentioned the following about the Lupton name:
I took a trip to Linton and Burnsall recently, and found a reference to the Lupton family, who were at the time an important local family. The information suggested that one of the "graves" in the church was shared by at least Ann Lupton (d ?1665) and Elizabeth Wrathall (1774). I was aware of Elizabeth being buried in the church and her husband was buried in the graveyard outside as he came from a lower (then !) family. I wondered if Elizabeth had been a LUPTON prior to her marriage to a Wrathall and they had a son called Lupton Wrathall ? Pure speculation at this time ...
Anne Lupton was buried under a plaque in the center aisle of the Linton church in 1665. Susanah Lupton (probably Anne's grand-daughter) married Henry Wraythall of Griston in 1704. Their first son William (1705), as yeoman, married Anne Howson in 1732. William's son Henry (1738), as yeoman, married Elizabeth Dean in 1764, and she died in 1774, so she is probably the one in the church, related to Anne Lupton by marriage. William and his sons went on to become gentlemen and land-owners. This info is from the Linton parish records.

An anonymous descendant mentioned that there is also an Anne Wrathall in the church. The flagstones are under the pews and aisle carpets, so it's not easy to spot them.

Henry and Susanah's younger son Lupton (1716) got his given name from Susanah. Lupton married Mary Colton in 1739. One of their older sons was a widower who moved to another parish (probably in Lancashire) and may have remarried. At first it seemed possible that he had a daughter who married a Robinson boy around 1781, and that their son could have been Lupton Wrathall Robinson, the ancestor of the Central Canadian Wrathalls. But now it's clear that Lupton W. Robinson got his surname from his unmarried mother, and his other two names from his father or grandfather.
In February 2000, Doris Wrathell Demet contributed the following on possible Lupton descendants:
I received information from the Nat'l Archives Toronto showing John Wrathall, farmer, age 50, born in Canada, died in Warwick on September 10, 1871 of acute diarrhoea. No other information was on record. Last summer (99) when we were in Warwick, we did visit the church and cemetery where he is buried, and took pictures also. John's headstone is located in the middle of many Baileys. A gentleman in town who has copies of the Church records said that records prior to 1899 were destroyed in a fire, but he did check his records to see if there were any other Wrathalls within the church after 1899, and there were NOT.

When we were there, we wrote down and took pictures of all the Bailey's for they surround John; let's see if there is something that catches your eye. These were all separate stones, then, in front of them, someone laid one big flat stone, number each and listing all the headstone reading again. These were at the St. Mary's Anglican Church in Warwick.
Also in 2000, Virginia Green commented as follows:
I have a John Wrathall s/o Lupton who married an Elizabeth Bailey. I have no dates for either of them, but this John could have been born ca. 1821.
In Feb. 2005, the Lanark County - Cemeteries website (operated by Keith Thompson) had a photo of a headstone with the following data: Also in Feb. 2005, the International Genealogical Index had a Family Group Record for Lupton Wrathall and Barbara Gilchrist which included an entry for Helen Wrathall (Birth: 06 APR 1866 Bathurst, Lanark, Ontario).

The International Genealogical Index also had a Family Group Record for George Wrathall and Mary Elizabeth Bailley  which included an entry for Lupton Wrathall (Birth: 1836 Bathurst, Lanark, Ontario). In Jan. 2007, the following FamilySearch Pedigree Resource File Individual Record was available for George Wrathall: Birth: 1813, England; Death: 9 Aug 1894; Burial: Elmwood Cem., Perth, Lanark Co., Ont; Parents: Lupton Wrathall Robinson and Rebecca Wayland

In Mar. 2006, Derek Wrathall (dwrathall(at)totalise(dot)co(dot)uk) contributed the following data about Lupton Wrathall (1778 - 1834):
From The National Archives at Kew; Reference WO 97/218/130

Record on microfiche of the discharge of LUPTON WRATHALL from the 3rd Foot Guards.

Born SPILSBY, Lincolnshire, enlisted aged 20, served 18 years and 92 days, but in consequence of being rheumatic and having a bad foot through a hurt in Egypt, is rendered unfit for further service.

He is about 38 Years of Age, is 5 Feet 6 Inches in Height, light Hair, Grey Eyes, Fresh Complexion, and by Trade a labourer.

He joined in 1798 but unfortunately I didn't record the date of his discharge.
In Jan. 2007, Michael Umpherson of Lanark, Ontario, provided the following information and photos regarding William Wrathall, husband of Mary PAUL of Poland, Lanark county, Ontario:
To start- some historical background: my Dad was born in Poland, Ont. in 1918, in a house across the road from the building known to us as the "shop"- i. e. Wrathall's blacksmith shop. [Dad's] brother- my Uncle Ken Umpherson- was the last owner of this building, which recently changed ownership to [Mr.] Bingley. Both my Dad and Uncle have since passed on, but I believe that Wm. Wrathall had left Poland (or at least was not operating the blacksmith shop) long before their births, in 1916 and 1918 respectively.

The first photo is a scan of a photo of the "shop" taken when Wm. Wrathall (son of Lupton Wrathall) was the owner. The old photo of the blacksmith shop belongs to me. My grandmother Umpherson was born Elizabeth A. PAUL- a cousin of Mary Wrathall [née PAUL].

The second photo [of William and Mary (Paul) Wrathall] is a copy of page 18 of Roy Paul's book, "The Irish Pauls of Dalhousie Township", published in 1996. Mary A. Paul was the daughter of James Brian Paul (b.1836 in Ireland, died 1930 in Poland, Ont.) and his wife Annie McMullen. [ The text accompanying this photo is as follows]:
Mary A. Paul was born in Poland, June 28, 1879 and died in Peterborough, Ontario, July 4, 1959. In 1901, in Poland, she married William John Wrathall and they had one son, Ernest L. Wrathall. William, who was the blacksmith in Poland for many years, also owned the Warsaw Hotel in Poland.
The third photo (Wrathall's Shop) was taken in 2005 by Mr. Keith Thompson [in charge of the Lanark County Genweb site]. There is a link to the Warsaw Hotel (owned by Wm. Wrathall at one time) in the "old buildings" section of Keith's website as well. Poland, Ontario is now a quiet little country hamlet with a populaton of approximately 20, a far cry from the 100 or so people who used to live there - with a church, stores, post office, sawmill, hotels, etc.!
Michael also provided links to websites containing search engines which give a number of results for Ontario Wrathalls: In Jan. 2007, the IGI Individual Record for William John Wrathall listed his marriage to Mary Paul (06 FEB 1901, Dalhousie, Lanark, Ontario). In addition, the International Genealogical Index had a Family Group Record for Lupton Wrathall and Barbara Gilchrist which included an entry for William John Wrathall (Birth: 30 OCT 1874, Bathurst, Lanark, Ontario). The L.D.S. FamilySearch Site also contained an entry for Lupton Wrathall's family in the 1881 Ontario census, which included a listing for William John Wrathall (age 6).
In Jun. 2007, the Lanark County Genealogical Society page "BACK FROM THE WARS -- WHAT THE SOLDIERS GOT" had the following:
# 3rd Royal Guards -- Lupton Wrathall, private, England, N. E. 13, 5th con. Drummond, 1817.
In Oct. 2007, the Ontario Genealogical Society had obituaries for Isabel Leona and Dr. Ernest Lawrence Wrathall (excerpts below): In Dec. 2007, Granny's Genealogy Gardens had the following marriage record:
#010126-1901 (Lanark Co): William J. WRATHALL, 26, Blacksmith, Bathurst, Dalhousie, s/o Lupton WRATHALL & Barbara GILERST, married Mary A. PAUL, 21, Dalhousie, Dalshosie, d/o James PAUL & Annie McMULLEN, witnesses George WRATHALL of Harpers Corners & Lizzie PAUL of Dalhousie, 6 February 1901 Dalhousie.
In Mar. 2010, Janis Robinson Wrathall [jansiphone(at)yahoo(dot)com], daughter of Dr. Ernest Lawrence Wrathall, mentioned the following:
I am searching for information on my father's origins .... Wm J Wrathall/Mary Paul are my late grandparents. I was wondering if [anyone] could give me some more information about them.